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Web Africa Network Plans – A Q&A with the CEO

image_previewQ: What are we planning regarding self-provisioning? Hereby I mean how much traffic will we carry and how much IPC capacity did we buy?
Matt: We will carry well over 500mps of IPC traffic. We will manage the IP network and purchase and peer with carriers and content providers as necessary.

Q: What bandwidth will we use?
Matt: We will most likely use Seacom and in the future WACS indirectly through carriers or partners. For international bandwidth we’ll initially use Sat3, backed by Telkom Wholesale in order to secure dependability and performance at good pricing. [...]

Q: Will we only carry ADSL traffic?
Matt: ADSL and hosting. We will be able to offer significant cost savings on the hosting side shortly, up to 100% in many cases, because we are able to leverage our content and access position to deliver further value. Our first step though is to ensure stable network connections and a seamless transition for customers. That’s our number one priority. Once we have a more holistic view of the data on our converged network (content/hosting and access/ADSL), we’ll be able to see where we can offer good deals.

Q: Will we look to interconnect directly with other hosts to cut local bandwidth cost?
Matt: Yes, for ADSL and hosting.

Q: Will we peer at JINX?
Matt: Most likely we will peer first at CINX (as the action is currently happening in Cape Town). But IPC will terminate in Teraco and connect to the hosting network.

Q: Now pricing. By how much do you think we’ll be able to cut prices on ADSL?
Matt: This is the million dollar question and the reason we haven’t been able to commit to figures. The honest truth is, we don’t know. We are fundamentally changing our business model from a VAR (Value Added Reseller) per GB to fixed cost. This will change the value offering significantly. We had hoped to be in a position where we can offer this sooner, but the launch is dependent on other parties, such as Telkom being able to provision us what we want, and there were significant technical and commercial hurdles to overcome.
But I can say that our product range will be entirely redone in due course. The whole idea behind us launching a new network is to finally be able to achieve real economies of scale.

Q: When will things take off?
Matt: If Telkom deliver, we’ll launch the trial within the next 30 days. The testing should take about 2-4 weeks, depending on how smooth it is. Then we’ll switch everyone over and collect the data to see where we can reduce pricing. But I’d like to aim for this year still.
In the meantime, we’ll be announcing some very competitive pricing on hosting which has largely been unchanged for quite some time.

Q: Will we be offering an uncapped service now that we have our own bandwidth?
Matt: Most definitely. Time frames will start of next year.

Q: Will we cut a user off because of an international warning or piracy issues as happened with IS and the bittorent warning recently?
Matt: No, we will not be doing this. We will work with the media industry to deliver content to customers legally and on their terms, however we will never voluntary cut off users without a court order requiring that action. We are not in the business of being the police force and to be embroiled in infringement matters. This is a matter between the IP industries and the consumer.

Q: Do you think R50 per GB is the new ADSL benchmark for data?
Matt: Yes, I don’t foresee it dropping dramatically more than that this year. You may see special offers etc. coming in below this rate, but there will be strings attached. The reality is that Seacom hasn’t changed all that much but the landscape is coming once true competition arrives via WACS and Eassy. The dynamics of pricing are changing completely and the local rates are going to drop dramatically in the near future.

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  • Mike

    If that pathetic monolith Mweb can already implement additional bandwidth at the same cost (eg 3GB up to 5GB), then I expect at least the same from webafrica. In fact, I would have thought you guys would be first off the mark! Disappointing…

    I follow the best deal and the best service. If you don’t provide it, my allegiances move elsewhere.

  • Mike

    If that pathetic monolith Mweb can already implement additional bandwidth at the same cost (eg 3GB up to 5GB), then I expect at least the same from webafrica. In fact, I would have thought you guys would be first off the mark! Disappointing…

    I follow the best deal and the best service. If you don’t provide it, my allegiances move elsewhere.

  • igloonaut

    Indeed Mike, well put.

  • igloonaut

    Indeed Mike, well put.

  • http://www.webafrica.co.za/ Matt

    Hi Mike

    I don’t think its pathetic at all. Mweb was overcharging customers for years and finally now decided to now be more competitive. If we had been also charging 30% more these past years we could do the same trick.

    Look at the evidence:

    R5gb Mweb account – R299
    R5gb WA account – R290

    http://www.webafrica.co.za/adsl/standard/
    http://www.mweb.co.za/productsservices/InternetAccess/InternetAccessADSLPricing/tabid/142/Default.aspx

    So basically MWeb has finally caught up and charging more realistic pricing. We appreciate those guys that have supported us and will stick by while we are working on real long term solutions to solving the bandwidth crisis.

  • http://www.webafrica.co.za Matt

    Hi Mike

    I don’t think its pathetic at all. Mweb was overcharging customers for years and finally now decided to now be more competitive. If we had been also charging 30% more these past years we could do the same trick.

    Look at the evidence:

    R5gb Mweb account – R299
    R5gb WA account – R290

    http://www.webafrica.co.za/adsl/standard/
    http://www.mweb.co.za/productsservices/InternetAccess/InternetAccessADSLPricing/tabid/142/Default.aspx

    So basically MWeb has finally caught up and charging more realistic pricing. We appreciate those guys that have supported us and will stick by while we are working on real long term solutions to solving the bandwidth crisis.

  • Julian

    If ADSL package prices decrease once everything is sorted out will people who are on a 2 year contract still have to pay the original amount stated at the beginning of the contract or will their billing change?

    Lastly if there are any other changes will those changes also apply to people on a contract?

  • Julian

    If ADSL package prices decrease once everything is sorted out will people who are on a 2 year contract still have to pay the original amount stated at the beginning of the contract or will their billing change?

    Lastly if there are any other changes will those changes also apply to people on a contract?

  • beth

    mweb can only dream about being as brilliant as Web Africa.. There is simply no other ISP like them in the country. Prices are not the be all and end all!

  • beth

    mweb can only dream about being as brilliant as Web Africa.. There is simply no other ISP like them in the country. Prices are not the be all and end all!

  • Deon Schlemmer

    Hi Matt

    Just want to find out what is going to happend with the per gig realm pricing since I am one of you small resellers that is doing my own thing. Will I still be able to make a small profit and still be on turf with what the big boys is offering.

    Thanks for all the support that I received up till now from WA.

    Regards
    Deon Schlemmer

    Office Action

  • Deon Schlemmer

    Hi Matt

    Just want to find out what is going to happend with the per gig realm pricing since I am one of you small resellers that is doing my own thing. Will I still be able to make a small profit and still be on turf with what the big boys is offering.

    Thanks for all the support that I received up till now from WA.

    Regards
    Deon Schlemmer

    Office Action

  • http://www.webafrica.co.za/ Matt

    Hi Deon,

    Resellers are very much part of our strategy and contribute to a significant revenue for us so its important we cater to their needs despite the apparent consumer focus.

    We are working on new pricing but it will only be available post network launch as we not sure at this stage by how much we can reduce. We’d rather not promise x and have expectations raised only to be disappointed.

    But the general idea is that resellers will be able to compete comfortably with new WA retail pricing.

  • http://www.webafrica.co.za Matt

    Hi Deon,

    Resellers are very much part of our strategy and contribute to a significant revenue for us so its important we cater to their needs despite the apparent consumer focus.

    We are working on new pricing but it will only be available post network launch as we not sure at this stage by how much we can reduce. We’d rather not promise x and have expectations raised only to be disappointed.

    But the general idea is that resellers will be able to compete comfortably with new WA retail pricing.

  • http://www.gotaclick.com/ Francois

    Hi Matt,

    Matt :
    Hi Mike
    I don’t think its pathetic at all. Mweb was overcharging customers for years and finally now decided to now be more competitive. If we had been also charging 30% more these past years we could do the same trick.

    Have you seen what Afrihost is now charging? R145 pm for a 5gb account, with 1gb topup only R29.

    Evidence: http://www.afrihost.com/adsl-broadband-internet.php

    I realize they may be on a different network Saix/IS etc, but thats one heck of a price difference dont you think? At that price some people wont care if things are a little slower…

    Are you guys going to drop your rates that low?

  • http://www.gotaclick.com Francois

    Hi Matt,

    Matt :
    Hi Mike
    I don’t think its pathetic at all. Mweb was overcharging customers for years and finally now decided to now be more competitive. If we had been also charging 30% more these past years we could do the same trick.

    Have you seen what Afrihost is now charging? R145 pm for a 5gb account, with 1gb topup only R29.

    Evidence: http://www.afrihost.com/adsl-broadband-internet.php

    I realize they may be on a different network Saix/IS etc, but thats one heck of a price difference dont you think? At that price some people wont care if things are a little slower…

    Are you guys going to drop your rates that low?

  • http://www.webafrica.co.za/ WaElanza

    Hi Francois,

    While we will not respond directly to Afrihost’s offer, we are planning to reduce our prices early next year if all goes according to plan. Together with Telkom Wholesale techs, we are working flat out preparing the network trial which will enable us to bring a host of new offerings in the future.

    You can take a look at the article on MyBroadband discussing this further if you would:
    http://mybroadband.co.za/news/ADSL/9756.html

  • http://www.webafrica.co.za WaElanza

    Hi Francois,

    While we will not respond directly to Afrihost’s offer, we are planning to reduce our prices early next year if all goes according to plan. Together with Telkom Wholesale techs, we are working flat out preparing the network trial which will enable us to bring a host of new offerings in the future.

    You can take a look at the article on MyBroadband discussing this further if you would:
    http://mybroadband.co.za/news/ADSL/9756.html

  • teraside

    I made a suggestion to the company I work for at the end of 2008 to move over to WA. It was a decision that was cost saving and it’s been worth it. We currently have a DSL Groups 100GB package with WA. We do our hosting with WA on US based servers and although I have had hiccups in the past, I can safely say that being in IT myself, I appreciate the services that WA offer.

    My main concern regarding this move to a new network is this:

    We need detailed communication with regard to what smtp servers to use. I have more than 200 mail accounts to reconfigure, not all are on our mail server, so WA is definitely making me work for my salary, lol.

    We need to know whether our US Based hosting account will be effected in any way, as this is the core of our communication re email access etc.

    Furthermore. I guess I appreciate the detail given to the public in this blog and on the net, but I have a sense that not enough info is given to WA’ clients, including us.

    A newsletter won’t suffice I’m afraid to ease the tension I feel. We need more information so that the network admins all over S.A. can have ease of mind that we won’t work a week to get our people up and running.

    What about our DSL Groups package. Will we have downtime? Will we need to do changes on routers or any other changes from our end?

    In a nutshell. Calm my nerves that I won’t be without a job, rofl.

    Thanks
    tera ;) :d :p

  • teraside

    I made a suggestion to the company I work for at the end of 2008 to move over to WA. It was a decision that was cost saving and it’s been worth it. We currently have a DSL Groups 100GB package with WA. We do our hosting with WA on US based servers and although I have had hiccups in the past, I can safely say that being in IT myself, I appreciate the services that WA offer.

    My main concern regarding this move to a new network is this:

    We need detailed communication with regard to what smtp servers to use. I have more than 200 mail accounts to reconfigure, not all are on our mail server, so WA is definitely making me work for my salary, lol.

    We need to know whether our US Based hosting account will be effected in any way, as this is the core of our communication re email access etc.

    Furthermore. I guess I appreciate the detail given to the public in this blog and on the net, but I have a sense that not enough info is given to WA’ clients, including us.

    A newsletter won’t suffice I’m afraid to ease the tension I feel. We need more information so that the network admins all over S.A. can have ease of mind that we won’t work a week to get our people up and running.

    What about our DSL Groups package. Will we have downtime? Will we need to do changes on routers or any other changes from our end?

    In a nutshell. Calm my nerves that I won’t be without a job, rofl.

    Thanks
    tera ;) :d :p

  • http://www.webafrica.co.za/ Matt

    Hi Teraside,

    To put your mind at ease we are specifically taking the time to do weeks of testing to ensure we pickup any unforseen issues. We also have thought of many such things in advance, dns settings, smtp etc. SMTP.SAIX.NET will work and continue for some time as per our FAQ. However going forward eventually smtp.wa.co.za is the preferred one.

    http://forums.webafrica.co.za/_2228.html

    We are also going to be sending out a separate communication once the testing is finished or near completion to let clients know we will be switching over.

    The whole point is though we’ve put a lot of money and planning into this to ensure its a smooth as possible transition for us and our clients.

    Regarding the US hosting, this will not be affected at all. Local hosting also won’t be affected per se, other than in the future (Prob November) we will change upstream routing to use our own network and not MTN/Verizon.

    There is no downtime planned on DSL Groups or any of the ADSL services.

  • http://www.webafrica.co.za Matt

    Hi Teraside,

    To put your mind at ease we are specifically taking the time to do weeks of testing to ensure we pickup any unforseen issues. We also have thought of many such things in advance, dns settings, smtp etc. SMTP.SAIX.NET will work and continue for some time as per our FAQ. However going forward eventually smtp.wa.co.za is the preferred one.

    http://forums.webafrica.co.za/_2228.html

    We are also going to be sending out a separate communication once the testing is finished or near completion to let clients know we will be switching over.

    The whole point is though we’ve put a lot of money and planning into this to ensure its a smooth as possible transition for us and our clients.

    Regarding the US hosting, this will not be affected at all. Local hosting also won’t be affected per se, other than in the future (Prob November) we will change upstream routing to use our own network and not MTN/Verizon.

    There is no downtime planned on DSL Groups or any of the ADSL services.

  • teraside

    Thanks Matt. Appreciate it. All the best for you for the future. I’ll be here to enjoy the WA ride :p

  • teraside

    Thanks Matt. Appreciate it. All the best for you for the future. I’ll be here to enjoy the WA ride :p

  • Chad

    Thanks for the info WA, these trial accounts are really awesome!

    I have 2 questions.

    1. I would love to be able to sign-up for a detailed WA newsletter with more info than our normal ones for example the info in this blog post, I am a 1st year IT student and happy WA subscriber for a couple of years (Best service in the industry by a mile!).

    2. I am on a shaped trial account and the international latencies are exceptional, can we expect these latencies to continue or with expansion do you think they might rise? (The low latencies I really enjoy and would definitely switch to your new network when it retails if its like this.)

    Thanks for being the BEST South African ISP!

    Chad

  • Chad

    Thanks for the info WA, these trial accounts are really awesome!

    I have 2 questions.

    1. I would love to be able to sign-up for a detailed WA newsletter with more info than our normal ones for example the info in this blog post, I am a 1st year IT student and happy WA subscriber for a couple of years (Best service in the industry by a mile!).

    2. I am on a shaped trial account and the international latencies are exceptional, can we expect these latencies to continue or with expansion do you think they might rise? (The low latencies I really enjoy and would definitely switch to your new network when it retails if its like this.)

    Thanks for being the BEST South African ISP!

    Chad

  • http://www.webafrica.co.za/ Kyron

    Hey Chad,

    Here are the answers to your questions:

    1. At the moment, we only have our standard newsletter with basic info for customers. We will be looking into a more technical newsletter like you mentioned sometime in the future, but for now we are using this blog as our news outlet.

    2. At this point in time, the quality you are experiencing is not going to be indicative of our final product. We are going to make sure that you receive the best possible performance from your account but at this point we are not able to guarantee anything until we have completed our testing.

    Thanks for your comments. We really appreciate all feedback so that we can remain the best ISP in SA ;)

  • http://www.webafrica.co.za Kyron

    Hey Chad,

    Here are the answers to your questions:

    1. At the moment, we only have our standard newsletter with basic info for customers. We will be looking into a more technical newsletter like you mentioned sometime in the future, but for now we are using this blog as our news outlet.

    2. At this point in time, the quality you are experiencing is not going to be indicative of our final product. We are going to make sure that you receive the best possible performance from your account but at this point we are not able to guarantee anything until we have completed our testing.

    Thanks for your comments. We really appreciate all feedback so that we can remain the best ISP in SA ;)

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